Wingflight
Warrior
T?was brillig and the slithy tothes did gyre and gimble in the wabe. (FAVOURITE. LINE. EVER!)
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Post by Wingflight on Mar 10, 2012 21:15:00 GMT -5
Hollyleaf is not on of the three. The erins confirmed it, and anyway knowing to follow the warrior code and defend you r clan with your life, and being diplomatic, good at fighting, good at judging people is not a magical power. That’s what makes her awesome. The three (except for beautiful jay sometimes) are really defined by their powers, but Hollyleaf is just normal and awesome.
Lightningstorm, you really shouldn’t be reading spoilers for the last hope if you’re only on Long Shadows because it will really spoil it for you. Also, you have to type so we can understand what you’re saying, because right now I only got about half of what you said before.
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Mar 10, 2012 21:17:52 GMT -5
It was confirmed Hollyleaf was not the fourth as well (just incase Lightning missed my post on the last page)
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Post by Shadowstalker on Mar 11, 2012 11:04:38 GMT -5
hollyleaf would be a half way decent leader because think about it when was the last book thunder clan ACCUALLY followed the warrior code and she IS one of the three her ability was always to follow the code to stck to it even in the worst of times so she COULD be the "savior" by making thunderclan listen to the code ThunderClan Listening to the Warrior Code won't stop the Dark Forest from destorying the clans. :\ and Anyways, like Blackbolt said, Hollyleaf NEVER had a power and never will. And she killed Ashfur. So if she broke the warrior code majorly, how can it be her power? Can you please use puncuation? I don't mean to be rude but I'm having trouble understanding you . . .
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Post by Admin on Mar 12, 2012 0:04:42 GMT -5
Clearly the fourth cat is going to be Firestar's old friend Smudge. His power will be laser vision/flight.
Lol that thing about firestar dying to save somebody stands out in bright contrast with the bloodclan skin. If only firestar's attempt at dying to save others could end up like harry potter's.....
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Wingflight
Warrior
T?was brillig and the slithy tothes did gyre and gimble in the wabe. (FAVOURITE. LINE. EVER!)
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Post by Wingflight on Mar 12, 2012 3:53:35 GMT -5
Clearly the fourth cat is going to be Firestar's old friend Smudge. His power will be laser vision/flight. Lol that thing about firestar dying to save somebody stands out in bright contrast with the bloodclan skin. If only firestar's attempt at dying to save others could end up like harry potter's..... yes, but then we’d be disappointed with a ‘happily ever after’ ending, which probably won’t fit the mass-death the erins have painted for us.
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Post by Shadowstalker on Mar 12, 2012 17:38:11 GMT -5
Clearly the fourth cat is going to be Firestar's old friend Smudge. His power will be laser vision/flight. Lol that thing about firestar dying to save somebody stands out in bright contrast with the bloodclan skin. If only firestar's attempt at dying to save others could end up like harry potter's..... yes, but then we’d be disappointed with a ‘happily ever after’ ending, which probably won’t fit the mass-death the erins have painted for us. ROFL Admin I hurt my ribs laughing!! Though what Wing says is true . . . you not what'd be cool? If Millie or Daisy became leader I think the following would be good leaders . . .: Brackenfur Thornclaw Dustpelt Brightheart (But she can't because she's never had an apprentice) Mousewhisker Oh, did you know: Vicky says part of the reason why Dovewing doesn't love Bumblestripe is because of his name. She thinks it's a "very uncool" name lol
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Mar 12, 2012 23:16:41 GMT -5
How about Spiderleg? D:
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Post by Admin on Mar 12, 2012 23:36:05 GMT -5
Dustpelt deserves to eventually be deputy, if not leader...he's been a loyal warrior for a long time & is related to ~1/2 the clan lol. @wind who said anything about happy? Smudge, the 4th cat, got his special powers because he was an unintentional 9th horcrux of voldemort (gellert grindelwald's pet cat) and he got sucked through the interdemensional wormhole of bestselling british books, ending up in warriors to wreak havoc upon the clans. Hmmm that was actually quite strange. Perhaps lack of sleep is getting to me *goes to bed*
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Mar 13, 2012 0:05:20 GMT -5
Lol Admin
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Wingflight
Warrior
T?was brillig and the slithy tothes did gyre and gimble in the wabe. (FAVOURITE. LINE. EVER!)
Posts: 280
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Post by Wingflight on Mar 13, 2012 5:57:07 GMT -5
I think sleep will do you good. ;D
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Post by Shadowstalker on Mar 15, 2012 18:14:10 GMT -5
xD
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Post by fairytailaddict on Mar 16, 2012 19:30:55 GMT -5
lol haha I did read a lot of these, and know that many of them are most likely true. Also, Dawn of the Clans (I'm 99.8% sure) is going to be about the beginning of the Clans, how it all really was in the beginning when there was no warrior code to abide by, no truly set boundaries, probably not much Clan loyalty..... Can't WAIT to read a series without a cat with powers! On another note, I think that Brackenfur would be the best choice for leader. Just my personal opinion. Dustpelt is too.... volatile. Too quick to react rather than thinking it through.
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Wingflight
Warrior
T?was brillig and the slithy tothes did gyre and gimble in the wabe. (FAVOURITE. LINE. EVER!)
Posts: 280
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Post by Wingflight on Mar 16, 2012 21:06:40 GMT -5
Yeah, Brackenfur is definitely a good choice but there are a few things going against him: he is not a young cat, and is in fact quite an old cat really, being less than six moons younger that Firestar and Greystripe; as we learnt from the recent TLH excerpt, The Last Hope takes place only a week after TFW, and he will still have a mate and kits in the nursery, which would probably distract him; Firestar had the chance to appoint him as deputy quite a few times, but he always chose someone else, because Brackenfur just doesn’t have what it takes to be a leader in some respects (I’m sort of assuming that Firestar meant charisma and confidence.
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Mar 18, 2012 19:57:09 GMT -5
Spiderleg for Clan Leader 2012!
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Wingflight
Warrior
T?was brillig and the slithy tothes did gyre and gimble in the wabe. (FAVOURITE. LINE. EVER!)
Posts: 280
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Post by Wingflight on Mar 19, 2012 1:16:57 GMT -5
I’m rooting for Hollystar.
And before someone says “how does being addicted/obsessed with the warrior code and killing an innocent cat and running away from you problems make you a good leader?” Hollyleaf was more than just that in Po3.
THe main point of Po3 (besides a background for OOTS) is to build character development for the Three (or two of the three and their awesome sister). Hollyleaf was shown to be shrewd and very attuned to Clan politics, and loyal to the warriors code. There were many unfortunate events in her life which made the warrior code become more relevant to her, and which compelled her to act in ways she might not have otherwise - anyway, I think the obsession has died down a bit in TFW, even considering what she said to dove wing after the fight with Sol, and how she acted when she though Ivypool and Redwillow had some sort of relationship.
The moment she changed from a med. cat apprentice to a warrior apprentice it was obvious what her skills were: in her first fight it shows her analysing every move her opponent makes in the split seconds before the attack. She is a superb fighter, a trait necessary for clan leader. She is also shrewd, intelligent (shown when she caught up to the other warrior apprentices so quickly after a moon of medicine cat training), loyal to the warrior code (which now seems to be more of a passive loyalty), caring (at least in the first part of Po3), and she just seems to have that innate quality that leaders seem to have. The bearing, the way of holding yourself, the pride in your clan.
Plus, she one of the five black cats in the series, and since Ravenpaw is no longer a can cat, Crowfeather’s chances aren’t looking to good considering his affairs, Nightcloud and Breezepelt would never be picked as deputy, I think at least one black cat should be a leader.
And, besides all of that, Hollyleaf is just plain awesome.
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Mar 19, 2012 20:55:18 GMT -5
I agree Holly did face a lot of challenges which sort of set her off course from being a code abiding cat but i still do not think she has the mettle to be clan leader. And yes she is very smart. And hey what about Spiderleg!? He is a black cat
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Wingflight
Warrior
T?was brillig and the slithy tothes did gyre and gimble in the wabe. (FAVOURITE. LINE. EVER!)
Posts: 280
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Post by Wingflight on Mar 20, 2012 1:09:27 GMT -5
Spiderleg is really a background character. And he isn’t completely black either. His chest is brown
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Rosepaw
Skilled Apprentice
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Post by Rosepaw on Mar 20, 2012 4:14:55 GMT -5
I like the look of these spoilers - Brambleclaw has unfinished business in the Dark Forest (But I thought he hated Tigerstar & Hawkfrost? What will happen? More training perhaps...?) Hollyleaf is not evil (I love Hollyleaf ;D) Vicky admitted she doesn't like Firestar (lol) (I'm with you aaaallll the way, Vicky!) The issue of Jayfeather having an apprentice will become big in the last hope (Is that why there are so few cats left, perhaps? ) Brightheart will be expecting in the last hope (Brightheart is my faaaavvvveee!!! ;D) Vicky said as of Outcast that Firestar is about 3 years old: however, he should be about six years old as of Forgotten Warrior (Weird... Firestar is a grandpa!!! D:< DOWN WITH FIRESTAR!) When Cinderheart goes to StarClan, she will either go as Cinderheart, or as two separate cats, Cinderheart and Cinderpelt. (Sounds a bit like dying... again) I don't like the look of these spoilers - Brambleclaw will not become leader, (confirmed) perhaps due to either blindness or cripplization (Speculation) (Oh I liked Bramble... for a new leader, I choose... the cat you least expect it to be!) There will be a gruesome death (Hmm... Firestar? ;D If it is... YAY!) There will be few survivors after the Dark Forest battle. (I'll blame Tigerstar for that then!) Graystripe will also die soon ( What?!) Briarlight's injuries are permanent. Due to this injury, eventually she will die due to having half a dead body. (Ewww...) Extra Info I thought was funny - Tigerstar was accepted by StarClan because he showed strong leadership qualities and made ShadowClan strong and fearsome again. (ROFL XD Tigerstar was soooo evil... and then StarClan is like this - 'Oh yes let's accept Tigerstar! ' Rainflower is sorry for how she treated Crookedstar, and makes up with him in StarClan. (Lol, a bit too late to say sorry now, missy!) Ravenpaw will never have a mate or kits. (Lol... well, he does live on a farm with just himself and his friend ) Mitzi from Crookedstar's Promise could be the same Mitzi in A Clan in Need. However, this might just be a coincidence. (I've read A Clan In Need... must read Crookedstar's Promise to see if Mitzi fits the description!) There will be no special powers in the fifth series (Woot!) (I hate special powers D:<) The elders who stayed behind in the forest died of old age (Lol ^^ I bet they did) Vicky wishes she could change the name for motorized vehicles (monsters) because she "absolutely hates it!" (Lol ;D Cat squashers!)
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Rosepaw
Skilled Apprentice
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Post by Rosepaw on Mar 20, 2012 5:32:26 GMT -5
I just had an idea!
You know how there will be few survivors after the DF Battle?
Well... what if Scourge joined the DF?
My logic -
Scourge was killed by a FOREST CAT in the FOREST. The DF is a place where evil/misunderstood cats go. Scourge fits both of those. He wouldn't of joined StarClan. 1 because he wasn't a forest cat. 2 because he didn't believe in them. Where else would he go? It might be possible that he didn't go to the DF, but if he did then he might of been seeking revenge on Firestar.
Firestar's Death... my logic -
If Scourge DID join the DF, then is it possible that Scourge took Firestar's final life? After all, Scourge killed Firestar once. He could do it again! Remember, anything could happen, so it might be possible for Scourge to join the DF and for Scourge to kill Firestar for the last time.
;D Anyone agree/disagree? Reply saying what you think!
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Mar 22, 2012 10:56:42 GMT -5
But Scourge does not believe in Starclan and since The dark forest is the evil opposite of Starclan there is no way Scourge would be there.
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