Spoilers for Last Hope *SPOILERS*

[Shadowstalker]

Okay, so, a lot of us are gleaning for some great spoilers on The Last Hope. Since we've got more than a month left to go for waiting, I decided I'd do a bit of gleaning myself. After checking several different reference sources to make sure they are true, I put this thread together.

Now, since some of us don't want to see all the huge spoilers, I've divided this up into two sections: Major and Minor Spoilers. The Minor Spoilers is just more background spoilers, nothing too big, such as new apprentices. Major Spoilers are spoilers that interfere greatly with the story line: such as a death, battle, cat appears, ect.
So, enjoy the spoilers!


*MINOR SPOILER ALERT!*[/i][/u]
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<sub><sup>Hazeltail will get a love interest

Brambleclaw has unfinished business in the Dark Forest

Braveheart, Shinningheart, and Brightspirit are from SkyClan (po3)

Thornclaw will not get a mate, despite rumors

Hollyleaf is not evil

WillowshineXJayfeather will not ever happen

Vicky admitted she doesn't like Firestar (lol)

The issue of Jayfeather having an apprentice will become big in the last hope

Crowfeather appears majorly in the Last hope

Icecloud and Lionblaze have no romantic interests in each other.

Brightheart will be expecting in the last hope

Brambleclaw will never forgive Squirrelflight

It comes out April 3rd, 2012

Vicky said as of Outcast that Firestar is about 3 years old: however, he should be about six years old as of Forgotten Warrior

Vicky would personally like to have Cinderheart as the next ThunderClan leader.

Mousefur never had any interest in having a mate.

When Cinderheart goes to StarClan, she will either go as Cinderheart, or as two separate cats, Cinderheart and Cinderpelt.


Daisy and Spiderleg have another litter of kits (Speculation, Rumor)</sup></sub>
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*MAJOR SPOILER WARNING*[/i][/u]
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<sub><sup>Firestar has two lives left as of FW and will die in The Last Hope

Brambleclaw will not become leader, (confirmed) perhaps due to either blindness or cripplization (Speculation)

Lionblaze will father kits

Cinderheart fights for her clan, even though she knows about her past.

Spottedleaf plays an important role in The Last Hope

There will be a gruesome death

There will be few survivors after the Dark Forest battle.

Graystripe will also die soon

Hollyleaf is NOT the fourth cat in the prophecy

The Three will reveal themselves to ThunderClan (Hinted Speculation)

Ciderheart mothers Lioneblaze's kits

Hollyleaf helps out against the DF

Ivypool will half-fight with the DF, half-fight against it (Speculation, Hinted)

Briarlight's injuries are permanent. Due to this injury, eventually she will die due to having half a dead body.</sup></sub>

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AS THIS IS A SPOILER THREAD, EXPECT SPOILER DISCUSSIONS! BE WARNED! ALL SPOILER DISCUSSIONS MUST BE IN SUBS!



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OTHER SPOILERS & FUNNY FACTS


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<sub><sup>SkyClan will never appear against after SkyClan & the Stranger (Except in Dawn of the Clans)

Tigerstar was accepted by StarClan because he showed strong leadership qualities and made ShadowClan strong and fearsome again.

Rainflower is sorry for how she treated Crookedstar, and makes up with him in StarClan.

Ravenpaw will never have a mate or kits.

The Tribe of Rushing Water will not reappear in Omen of the Stars, but they may show up again elsewhere.

The ginger cat in the tunnels in Sign of the Moon has appeared before. (? Speculations welcome!)

Mitzi from Crookedstar's Promise could be the same Mitzi in A Clan in Need. However, this might just be a coincidence.

Vicky would love to do a WindClan Super Edition, possibly featuring Tallstar.

There will be no special powers in the fifth series (Woot!)

The elders who stayed behind in the forest died of old age

Vicky thinks the best book she has worked on is Bluestar's Prophecy.

Vicky wishes she could change the name for motorized vehicles (monsters) because she "absolutely hates it!"

Vicky had an idea about bringing Midnight back as a villain, but her editor talked her out of it. (Lol)</sup></sub>

[Dawnsky]

my main reaction:

some spoilers i liked, such as
hollyleaf's not evil!!!!!
lionblaze and cinderheart have kits!!!!!
cinderheart fights w/ the clans
When Cinderheart goes to StarClan, she will either go as Cinderheart, or as two separate cats, Cinderheart and Cinderpelt(intresting!)
Brambleclaw has unfinished business in the Dark Forest (also intresting!)
Brightheart will be expecting
Spottedleaf plays an important role



ones i didn't like the idea of:
the gruesome death
there are few survivors (basically looking like the end of the clans)
graystripe and firestar will die (although about firestar that's old news)
brambleclaw won't forgive squirrelflight

[Mod Blackbolt]

Hmmmm well i have heard the 2 life one and most of the others but i was wondering where you heard firestar would die (though it is extremely likely i looked all over for evidance a month or so ago and could not find.)

[Wingflight]

Some of those I think are rumours.

As far as I know none of the erins have actually confirmed that LionxCinder will happen (though they have said they want it to happen a couple of times) and therefore there has been no confirmation that they will have kits together. It also hasn’t been confirmed that Lionblaze will have a mate or kits at all, though I hope so (Heathertail, YEAH!).

I don’t think I ever heard the erins discount WillowxJay as a possibility though I wouldn’t be surprised.

The erins have only hinted that Brambleclaw might have divided loyalties towards the DArk Forest, not confirmed.

I definitely know that vicky likes firestar.

They never actually said that Bramble would never forgive Squirrel, they just said that he probably won’t in the rest of series because there’s so much water under the bridge, but who knows?

I have never heard anywhere that it has been CONFIRMED that Bramble will die, and definitely not because he was blinded or crippled. All the erins have said is that the next leader will be unexpected. Brambleclaw still might become leader temporarily, and die before he gets his nine lives. We don’t know. And we won’t till the book comes out because NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.

Greystripe might die soon since he is pretty damn old (though i think its more likely ancient Mousefur will be next to go), but once again, it has not been confirmed.

Vicky said when asked if Briarlight would die something along the lines of ‘I like her so I’ll let her live a while longer’. Now, while this pretty much says she is going to die eventually, it doesn’t mean that she WILL die, and if she does it might not be because she was crippled.

I apologise if the erins actually have confirmed some or all of these.

[Shadowstalker]

Mar 7, 2012 6:08:35 GMT -5 Wingflight said:

Some of those I think are rumours.

As far as I know none of the erins have actually confirmed that LionxCinder will happen (though they have said they want it to happen a couple of times) and therefore there has been no confirmation that they will have kits together. It also hasn’t been confirmed that Lionblaze will have a mate or kits at all, though I hope so (Heathertail, YEAH!).

But it WAS confirmed. Any that are speculations or rumors say so. This was confirmed/

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I don’t think I ever heard the erins discount WillowxJay as a possibility though I wouldn’t be surprised.

There's been a really false rumor about WillowXJay, so Vicky stepped in and said it'd never happen.[/B]

The erins have only hinted that Brambleclaw might have divided loyalties towards the DArk Forest, not confirmed. Who said he had loyalties? Maybe by "unfinished business" it means something else?[/color]

I definitely know that vicky likes firestar.
Hmmm. Okay, that one probably wasn't true.

They never actually said that Bramble would never forgive Squirrel, they just said that he probably won’t in the rest of series because there’s so much water under the bridge, but who knows?

Yes they did. I checked several resources, you know, and even the wiki says it.

I have never heard anywhere that it has been CONFIRMED that Bramble will die, and definitely not because he was blinded or crippled. All the erins have said is that the next leader will be unexpected. Brambleclaw still might become leader temporarily, and die before he gets his nine lives. We don’t know. And we won’t till the book comes out because NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.
I never said he'd die. It was confirmed he will NOT become leader. And the blindness/crippilization was speculation/[/b]

Greystripe might die soon since he is pretty damn old (though i think its more likely ancient Mousefur will be next to go), but once again, it has not been confirmed.
YES IT HAS.

Vicky said when asked if Briarlight would die something along the lines of ‘I like her so I’ll let her live a while longer’. Now, while this pretty much says she is going to die eventually, it doesn’t mean that she WILL die, and if she does it might not be because she was crippled.
By rights now, she should be dead. Because, no matter how great a medicine cat or vet you have, you can't mend a broken spine. This has nothing to do with her being crippled, but it has to do with the wound. By now, her useless back body should be decaying. This is true fact: I'm going logically here, because it's physically impossible for an animal with a broken spine to live more than a few months.

I apologise if the erins actually have confirmed some or all of these.

They did confirm a lot of these . . . that's the whole reason I put them up. I checked my resources, y'know.
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Blackbolt: THAT was confirmed by Vicky in one of the Erin Hunter chat things. Plus, it's old news that he dies in the Last Hope. It was confirmed a long time ago.

[Mod Blackbolt]

No i viewed all the chats (wands and wizard thing correct?) and i did not see that mentioned :/ plus most of it was speculation and i do not want him to die D:

[Wingflight]

I still don’t believe some of those, but whatever.

The thing about briar light though: you’re right, in real life she’d probably be dead by this point with a broken spine. But this isn’t real life, and though I don’t like it when it happens in fantasy books, the author creates the world. Anyway, I never said I didn’t agree with you that she wouldn’t die, but not necessarily in the timespan of the current series or directly because of her injury (indirectly being if maybe because she can’t run maybe a dog or another cat gets her). I just said that as far as I know it hasn’t been confirmed.

Just a question: what was your source for those questions? Just out of interest because I thought I’d read all the chats and stuff.

[Shadowstalker]

Some from wiki, some for Erin Hunter Chats, and a few are from fan websites, though I did check several of them to make sure it wasn't just a rumor. The ones that are from websites have (hinted, speculation) by them.

[Dawnsky]

where can you find Erin Hunter Chats and that sort of thing?

[Admin]

Hmm I REALLY[/b] don't want Firestar to die When I started making the first game I was determined to never make a game of the series in which he dies. Idk if I'll stick to that now....

Hopefully Cinderheart doesn't become leader of Thunderclan...personally I think Lionblaze or perhaps Dustpelt as leader would be better. I just think Dustpelt has been a warrior for a very long time and deserves to be at least deputy at some point ;p

Lionblaze and Cinderheart have kits

[Shadowstalker]

Admin: When I first heard Firestar was going to die in the Last Hope, I was happy. But now that it's getting closer . . . I honestly don't want him to. He was the start of the first series, what made the Warriors series the Warrior series. It's just . . . sad that he dies. It's like the end of the Grand Plot of the series, y'know . . .

Or Brackenfur. Three times he was almost appointed deputy of TC, y'know. (Sunset, Dawn, and the other I can't remember. ) A lot of people say Hollyleaf will be leader, but honestly I think that'd be a disaster. She sticks way too much to the warrior code, and doesn't even break it when she thinks it's okay to (like Fireheart and Graystripe did)

[Mod Blackbolt]

Lol Hollyleaf leader? Thunderclan would be in ruins. (but i still love Hollyleaf because she is a black cat and looks like my cat Karma)

[Dawnsky]

*agrees with Shadeforest about Firestar* (except for wanting him to die at first lol)

[Shadowstalker]

Oh yush, and Tigerheart and Dovewing will not get back together (Woot!)

You know what'd be super cool? If Dovewing ends up having to kill Tigerheart to save ThunderClan! And BrambleClaw goes over to the dark side. >
I was really hoping that they're make part of the Last Hope from Firestar's POV. You know, like every three chapters or something. That way we would know what his last thoughts were . . .

[Shadowstalker]

You know . . . Dovewing never realized her power until she was an apprentice. What if Cherrypaw or Molepaw is the fourth? I was thinking maybe even Seedkit or Lilykit, but they're too young still . . .

[Shadowstalker]

Oh yush, and *SPOILER* ^{_{Firestar dies saving someone}}[/sub] *SPOILER OVER!

I put the spoiler in a faint color and in tiny text so people don't accidentally read it. Just highlight it to read it.

[lightningstorm]

lol theres a new bokk comeing out......Vicky?............Well we all new hollyleaf's too epic to be evil.........Wat bambleclaw and squirlflight broke up........man bet you guys now which books i,m on
LONG SHADOWS lol omen of the stars will be my least fav cuz Dovepaw and Ivypaw take Hollyleafs place

[Mod Blackbolt]

Awww Firestar dies saving someone..... I hope they are relevant..... (Maybe Sandstorm, or one of the 3)

[lightningstorm]

hollyleaf would be a half way decent leader because think about it when was the last book thunder clan ACCUALLY followed the warrior code and she IS one of the three her ability was always to follow the code to stck to it even in the worst of times so she COULD be the "savior" by making thunderclan listen to the code

[Mod Blackbolt]

The third is Dovewing Lightningstorm, and it was confirmed Hollyleaf is not the fourth