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Post by Shadowstalker on Jul 5, 2012 10:19:04 GMT -5
Fire: It's perfectly natural.
Spirit: Vicky Holmes said that there has never been a leader who has died more than once of old age, usually because by that time they are on their last life.
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 5, 2012 10:23:06 GMT -5
My whole point was this: Spiderleg wasn't even made a warrior until the middle of TNP series. He's getting gray in TLH. How can Graystripe and Sandstorm and Dustpelt not be old by now?
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Jul 5, 2012 10:26:22 GMT -5
My whole point was this: Spiderleg wasn't even made a warrior until the middle of TNP series. He's getting gray in TLH. How can Graystripe and Sandstorm and Dustpelt not be old by now? Some cats age quicker then others my cat for example is pure black and started developing grey hair at a very young age (2-3), it has not advanced much since then and he is still black fured but my 18 year old cat has less grey hair then he does.....
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 5, 2012 10:31:06 GMT -5
I still feel that they should be in the elder's den.
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Post by Shadowstalker on Jul 5, 2012 11:09:22 GMT -5
We all do. But the problem is, if they retire Dustpelt and Sandstorm and all them, they'd have to retire Firestar too, and then there'd be no epic end to TC greatest leader.
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Jul 5, 2012 11:35:44 GMT -5
Well i mean cats are not forced to retire they decide to retire when they feel they can no longer be of use or feel that they have served their clan appropriately.
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 5, 2012 12:56:39 GMT -5
Leaders can retire? o.o
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Jul 5, 2012 13:07:54 GMT -5
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Post by Shadowstalker on Jul 5, 2012 13:21:16 GMT -5
Yeah. Didn't you guys know...? In order to retire, leaders must first go to the Moonstone. StarClan will then take back all their remaining lives except for one. They then go back to their warrior name and retire to the elders den. Pinestar formally retired, that's why Sunstar was able to receive all nine lives. If a leader doesn't go back to the Moonstone, the next leader does not receive all their lives. This is what happened with Brokenstar and Nightstar.
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Post by Firestarscourge on Jul 5, 2012 19:24:45 GMT -5
but pinestar went to live with kittypets and sunstar only got 8 lives
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Post by Shadowstalker on Jul 5, 2012 20:11:45 GMT -5
Yeah. Plus his original life. Leaders really only get 8 MORE lives, but they're original is replaced with a new one. Get it?
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 5, 2012 21:04:39 GMT -5
Ahh. I never understood the Brokenstar/Nightstar thing. Thank you, Shadeforest!
I've been wondering how in Starclan did Tigerstar get nine lives? o.o
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Jul 5, 2012 21:37:19 GMT -5
Ahh. I never understood the Brokenstar/Nightstar thing. Thank you, Shadeforest! I've been wondering how in Starclan did Tigerstar get nine lives? o.o He was deputy he becomes leader.....
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Post by Shadowstalker on Jul 6, 2012 0:07:24 GMT -5
Vicky Holmes said that members of StarClan who had mentored Tigerstar or were family were happy to see him become leader. They hoped he would finally be satisfied with his role as ShadowClans leader and lead it well. Unfortunatley, they were mistaken.
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 6, 2012 1:54:05 GMT -5
I get confused with all the 'SC can predict the future,' then 'SC just watch,' and all that. That's why I was so confused. It's very inconsistent, but I guess it gets mixed up with so many different writers.
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Jul 6, 2012 12:29:51 GMT -5
I get confused with all the 'SC can predict the future,' then 'SC just watch,' and all that. That's why I was so confused. It's very inconsistent, but I guess it gets mixed up with so many different writers. Don't worry i am always confused.....
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 6, 2012 12:57:07 GMT -5
There's so many messups in the books. Poor Heavystep. Dies three times. x.x
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Jul 6, 2012 12:57:54 GMT -5
There's so many messups in the books. Poor Heavystep. Dies three times. x.x Must have been a terrible experience.
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 6, 2012 13:06:23 GMT -5
Yup. I think he dies twice from greencough, and once from something else... It's in the wiki under his name.
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Post by Spiritsong on Jul 6, 2012 13:07:25 GMT -5
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