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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Apr 18, 2013 20:47:25 GMT -5
They have made no altercations to the consitution and things are still getting bad where you live, how can changing it be a bad move (if it is getting worse there is a chance of making it better or having it stay bad (and perhaps get worse faster, but for a chance to make it better is that really something to prevent.... even if it is going to get worse eventually?)
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Post by piplup10036 on Apr 18, 2013 20:48:58 GMT -5
I never said they have made any alterations/changes to the cons. (Yet...)
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Post by Shadowstalker on Apr 19, 2013 14:55:52 GMT -5
But you do not need the guns in the first place You haven't been to Texas have you
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Post by Shadowstalker on Apr 19, 2013 14:57:37 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to read the last page...yilaz em.
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Post by Snowfeather on Apr 19, 2013 20:29:05 GMT -5
I would say yes it's kind of like an obsession, I think the feeling it's pasted down.I'm probably not going to word this the best but when you first start out from the beginning wanted guns and learning how to shoot you pass it down the the line, teach your son/daughter how to shoot,next generation next generation.Especially when a war was going on you needed it (more or less) Terrorist attacks happened then and it's still happening now, When you feel threatened you arm yourself it's always worked like that.People in the Boston area where the first bomb subject was on a run are probably stocking there guns ready for use,why? Because there's a madman out there and if he trys to hurt them they know they have a fair chance of avoiding death with their guns, thus feeling protected.It again just matters who has the gun, my dad's offering me shooting lessons for a pistol when I get older (and I accept), but it doesn't mean I'm going to kill any innocent people.
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Apr 20, 2013 9:22:55 GMT -5
But you do not need the guns in the first place You haven't been to Texas have you I would not want to be in Texas. As for what Snow said: Many people in my family can shoot.... but i never see them with a gun. Why? Because they have no use for it! Every country started out with a need for guns, that was just how it was then.... but the fact that every other country has 'grown up' and America is still left with this obsession is seriously troubling. There was a great video i watched about terrorist attacks, fact is you are 500 times more likely to be killed in a gun fight and then being hit by lightning is 2 times more likely than that. There are mad men in every country, not just America and people thinking they need to get many guns in order to prevent such a thing from happening is ridiculous especially if the event in the first place is not even as much of a risk as being killed in a gun fight. Since 9/11 there have been 77 individuals who where able to obtain bombs to carry out terrorist acts (out of more then 380 who tried), out of those 77 48 of them have been right wing extremists with no connection to Al Qaeda at all, the other 23 were militants inspired by al Qaeda's ideology. Since 9/11 acts of terrorism have been exceedingly rare. www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/opinion/bergen-bombings/index.htmlI will add the video with the likely hood of being involved in a terrorist act if i can find it again.
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Post by piplup10036 on Apr 20, 2013 21:23:27 GMT -5
They caught one of the suspects from for the boston bombing attack.
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Apr 20, 2013 22:34:46 GMT -5
Did that not happen yesterday? (Or early this morning?)
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Post by Snowfeather on Apr 21, 2013 19:51:34 GMT -5
Well just to have a gun doesn't mean you have to always have it around with you, Almost all of america has guns but they don't always walk around with them (That could get you time in jail of course) They just keep them at home, you'll probably never see anyone with a gun (besides a hunting rifle) unless it's the rare time they need it or stocking up on them.With whats going on now people feel like they need them.There are still reasons for the use of guns, not as high as the reason back then but it is still in affect.Americans always remember that while most guns are for hunting and protection we do have most of the guns in the world and some don't obey that.Everytime you turn on the news and there's a murder,school shooting or some of such the sort it scares people.The more people hear about that the more they want guns, it's becoming accustomed to always have guns because the facts.Maybe even more then 2 like we have.
Bombing may be rare but the feeling doesn't wear off any time soon, people are still scared of the 9-11 act.Everytime there's a bombing or a murder act (even more so if it's near you) you can't just forget it.Most people that don't know America probably think of Americans as Tough and cocky, when really were pretty scared people sometimes that's why we stock up on guns so much.
Going back to the laws my option what I think it should be is
An increase (major) in background checks, before you buy a gun or even get a lisense you have to go through a complete check, any tickets, jail time or broken laws will be well looked through.
The big guns taken off the market (machine guns)
big guns only shipped to the army (better check of where there sent, this sets it out for the slow down of being at a black market)
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Post by Shadowstalker on Apr 22, 2013 9:33:45 GMT -5
the problem for me with this thread is that a lot of my opinions and choices are due to religion, so I can't really say much without sounding like I'm forcing everyone nearby to religion class.
Black, I think you're missing my point. My point is that it doesn't matter if we put up background checks or such. The criminals and felons will just get them off the black market. It won't do anything to help at all.
What do you guys think of Colorado's descision to allow marijuana?
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Apr 22, 2013 10:43:48 GMT -5
marijuana is a bad drug, it destroys your brain. However i think people should be able to smoke it or whatever if they want.
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Post by Shadowstalker on Apr 22, 2013 15:16:54 GMT -5
I think it's the stupidest idea Colorado ever had.
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Post by piplup10036 on Apr 22, 2013 15:19:53 GMT -5
I don't think its a bad decision. If people want to light it up let them. Just keep in your house and smoke it inside away from those who wish to have nothing to do with it. People should be able to make their own decisions in life good or bad as long as they don't harm others.
Edit: In case your looking for a news update on my situation, me and all my friends got ourselves a lawyer to help us sue the school. I haven't been told when the trial will take place yet though. I may or may not disappear for awhile for the trail.
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Post by Snowfeather on Apr 22, 2013 18:11:40 GMT -5
(Wasn't part of making it legal for medicine?)
I don't think it needs to be legal right now.My dad talks about how a large part of his patients are from a marijuana disease (doctor) It can cause many sicknesses and shorten life greatly, You walk in have no clue where you are because your memory's so damaged, Besides there's no true need for it (unless of course it was in medicine which i heard) another think to get hooked on we don't need
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Post by Shadowstalker on Apr 22, 2013 20:06:33 GMT -5
Marijuana has no medical purposes.
I'm mostly worried about the kids. Now, you have kids who are openly going to school high on that stuff. They're convincing other kids to use it. I know, I have two aunts whose children live in Denver.
@pip: What did it do?
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Post by Moonpaw on Apr 22, 2013 20:42:41 GMT -5
Marijuana should not be legal it does harmful stuff to the body
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Post by Mod Blackbolt on Apr 23, 2013 11:07:51 GMT -5
Cannabis has been claimed to help with a large number of wide-ranging symptoms. However, research has concluded three major properties which are medically useful. Cannabis is:
an analgesic (relieves pain) an anti-emetic (relieves nausea and vomiting) an appetite stimulant (induces hunger)
So Marijuana does have medical purposes, however it does far more harm than good.
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Post by Snowfeather on Apr 23, 2013 20:19:11 GMT -5
Ever think of being a doctor? (ja) (had to say this, CNN the political/news site adds favorites to "It's special list" which is it's mostly in the war/world problems and they had this on Bieber www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/opinion/obeidallah-bieber-shut-up/index.html?hpt=op_mid A serious news station even has it's own piece about him) Next topic:What do you think the american character is? thoughts on American issues and who's to blame
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Post by piplup10036 on May 2, 2013 16:33:06 GMT -5
When you say "Character" I assume that you mean stereotype thought of America. Which would be the average Joe who goes around on a "If it moves shoot it and ya got dinner" hunt every fall and summer. Who's to blame for it? no one can really pin point one person for that big of a stereotype other then themselves.
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Post by Shadowstalker on May 6, 2013 12:16:45 GMT -5
Ohmyfelix this is ridiculous.
Sorry, not you guys. Just, on the MODG boards (MODG is the homeschool planner I follow) most of us on their are conservatives. But there's this one Brittish guy who's extremely liberal. He started a thread about gun restictions. His main point was that he heard about some 5 year old in America who accidentally show his 2 year old sister with a rifle. This guy, George, started going off on a really long rant about how we "stupid Americans" have to "cling to our precious guns" and that stuff like that happens when we don't restirct guns. But here's the thing. How, in any way, is it the goverment's fault? How would putting gun restrictions prevent something like that? It wouldn't. Unless the father/mother who owned the gun had a criminal past, they would have gotten the gun anyway even with background checks. In this case, it is totally the fault of the parents for leaving a fully loaded gun sitting on the table, in the room with their young children, with no adult supervision. That's just idiocy right there.
The thing about the Marijuana in Colorado: While yes, people should be allowed to make their own choices, I'm talking about the influence here. Allowing the use of this horrid drug in Colorado basically tells kids that it's okay. I'm not talking about the older kids, like our age, but the younger ones, like nine and ten year olds who don't quite know better yet. This would send them a bad message. Other kids and adults who are high on this stuff will influence them to do it, too. You're right that people should be allowed to make their own decisions. But let me say this. If someone tries to commit suicide, you'd try to stop them, right? Well, it's the same thing. You don't allow things for someone's own sake. Just as a mother doesn't allow he children to eat too much candy because they'll get a stomach ache, so we should not allow people to use harmful drugs. For their own sake.
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