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Post by Willowleaf on Oct 20, 2011 21:32:22 GMT -5
Well if some cat REALLY wanted it, they could dive to the bottom of the lake. And, if Jayfeather went and tattled to everybody about Blossomfall and her training in the Dark Forest, that wouldn't be very "respecting" to say the least. Blossomfall isn't a bad cat, she just wants to be recognized by her mother, and that's what the Dark Forest cats want in a trainee: revenge. And if they could *borrow* twoleg scuba diving stuff.
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 20, 2011 21:32:48 GMT -5
or unless Starclan conjers up a helmet of air for the cat.
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Post by Hallow on Oct 20, 2011 22:07:15 GMT -5
well i'm not saying "tattled" i'm saying that he should've told everyone when he 1st found out so those who wanted to be a traitor could openly go to the DF and then nobody would be taken in by Tigerstar's lies. (his lies being like this "if u train w/ me then u will be noticed and cats will like u") plus then we'd know about more of our enemies. *goldeness* Jayfeather doesn't know about Blossomfall being trained in the Dark Forest. He only knows Ivypool is. And, if Jayfeather were to announce that cats were training in the Dark Forest, he may be treated like Goosefeather. It's always best to know the facts before making an accusation after all; Jayfeather doesn't know exactly what Tigerstar is planning. Plus, the cats should be smart enough to avoid Tigerstar after all he did (like Tawnypelt, who refused, and eventually Brambleclaw). I mean, training with the forest's biggest villian to ever exist? That's just stupid. I can understand Brambleclaw and Lionblaze's excuse because they are related to him (well *SPOILERS* Lionblaze isn't).
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 20, 2011 22:19:12 GMT -5
well, ivypool should tell him. i really think she should be a bit more open about the DF. after all, the more u know about your enemies the better.
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Post by Hallow on Oct 20, 2011 22:21:41 GMT -5
Ivypool doesn't know what's being planned either. She tells Jayfeather that now that Mapleshade trusts her, she's getting "really close to finding out what Tigerstar is planning". Yeah, right. Just because you befriended an elder in the Dark Forest doesn't make you closer to anything.
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 21, 2011 8:52:04 GMT -5
well, what i meant by that is that she knows WHO is training in the DF and who is a traitor and who is training that doesn't know what Tigerstar is planning. and i think Mapleshade is actually a part of Tigerstar's inner circle, and knows a lot. Have you read Crookedstar's promise? if you have confirm it and i will tell u why i think mapleshade's part of Tigerstar's inner circle.
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Post by Hallow on Oct 21, 2011 8:59:19 GMT -5
well, what i meant by that is that she knows WHO is training in the DF and who is a traitor and who is training that doesn't know what Tigerstar is planning. and i think Mapleshade is actually a part of Tigerstar's inner circle, and knows a lot. Have you read Crookedstar's promise? if you have confirm it and i will tell u why i think mapleshade's part of Tigerstar's inner circle. I have read Crookedstar's Promise (my new favorite super-edition, now) and I have proof. I know that *SPOILERS* Crookedstar's mate was Willowbreeze. Ivypool just isn't a "I'm open to everybody" or a "warm and fuzzy" character anymore. The only cats that are training in the Dark Forest that Jayfeather knows of are Ivypool, Breezepelt (or I think he SUSPECTS Breezepelt of training there) and that's it, I think. Tigerstar's "inner circle" at least consists of Mapleshade, but wouldn't it be that Tigerstar would share all his plans with Hawkfrost, because Hawkfrost is his son? I think Ivypool should at least move towards Hawkfrost a little more, or even Brokenstar (because of that one time Tigerstar and Brokenstar conjured up a plan when Brokenstar was a prisioner in ThunderClan). Ivypool needs to go to someone who is the closest to Tigerstar, which is probably not Maplshade.
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 21, 2011 9:12:44 GMT -5
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Post by Hallow on Oct 21, 2011 9:20:22 GMT -5
well, mapleshade still probably know's SOMETHING and besides i'm sure Tigerstar will tell everyone in the DF when the battle is to root out anyone that hasn't known the goal of the DF and has just been training but now they do and refuse to help the DF (unfortunitly tigerstar would probably kill those that know the plot but don't want to be a part in it b/c he can't risk that someone would tell the clans) btw crookedstar's promise is also 1 of my favs. and in NW it says that Hollowpaw is a traitor but in SOTM it says that he doesn't know the real purpose of the training in the DF what's up w/ that? I agree that Mapleshade knows something, and that every Dark Forest cat is gonna be told when whatever Tigerstar is planning is gonna happen, though it just seems more likely that Tigerstar thought of this genius plan with cats he'd know would never betray him, like Hawkfrost. And one thing I've noticed about Tigerstar: Ivypool has been feeding Jayfeather some news about the Dark Forest, but Tigerstar doesn't give a fudge (or he's not watching her closely; probably because he and Hawkfrost trust her). The Hollowpaw thing is just confusing. I don't quite understand what you're saying.
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 21, 2011 19:29:18 GMT -5
well, in NW during a training session in the DF, a meeting was called where Tigerstar confirmed that they would try to destroy the clans. holowpaw was at the meeting and made it clear that he liked the plan. however, in SOTM, during another DF training session Ivypool coached hollowpaw, and he said he'd been there twice and he thought it was just for extra training. so is Hollowpaw traitor? or has he just been manipulated? i guess we'll find out later in the series.
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Post by Pastel on Oct 22, 2011 10:37:38 GMT -5
*Faints* XP
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Post by Hallow on Oct 22, 2011 10:47:20 GMT -5
well, in NW during a training session in the DF, a meeting was called where Tigerstar confirmed that they would try to destroy the clans. holowpaw was at the meeting and made it clear that he liked the plan. however, in SOTM, during another DF training session Ivypool coached hollowpaw, and he said he'd been there twice and he thought it was just for extra training. so is Hollowpaw traitor? or has he just been manipulated? i guess we'll find out later in the series. I don't think Hollowpaw is a traitor; I think Hollowpaw is just not going to follow Tigerstar when he tries to take over the Clans and that he's only training in the Dark Forest to become stronger. And it's pretty obvious Tigerstar is going to try and take over the Clans, though nobody knows when or how he's going to do it.
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Post by Willowleaf on Oct 22, 2011 13:56:41 GMT -5
Maybe in their dreams so he can hurt Lionblaze?
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 22, 2011 16:08:14 GMT -5
yeah, i think on the day of the battle all the Clan cats are giong to go to the DF and fight the battle there and in Starclan territory. even the kits and elders will probably get killed if the Clans lose. that would be despicaple, even for Tigerstar. i wonder if the Tribe of Rushing water and Skyclan will be involed in the battle at all. probably just the Tribe...
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 22, 2011 16:09:38 GMT -5
@shadestar: *faints*?
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Post by Hallow on Oct 22, 2011 20:49:57 GMT -5
yeah, i think on the day of the battle all the Clan cats are giong to go to the DF and fight the battle there and in Starclan territory. even the kits and elders will probably get killed if the Clans lose. that would be despicaple, even for Tigerstar. i wonder if the Tribe of Rushing water and Skyclan will be involed in the battle at all. probably just the Tribe... Or maybe Tigerstar and the Dark Forest cats will come to the territories (before anyone says they can't do that, they CAN) and start a war and Firestar will be like "WTF (standing for "What the firetruck?, before anyone reports me)?" and HOPEFULLY will join StarClan. That would make me happy.
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 22, 2011 20:51:27 GMT -5
@hallow: but if hollowpaw isn't a traitor but he knows the true purpose of the DF, then wouldn't he tell his leader about it? i mean, it's obvious it even affects his Clan. maybe when he feels like he's trained enough he'll tell his leader or someone of importance,
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Post by Deathwish on Oct 22, 2011 20:53:59 GMT -5
yeah, i think on the day of the battle all the Clan cats are giong to go to the DF and fight the battle there and in Starclan territory. even the kits and elders will probably get killed if the Clans lose. that would be despicaple, even for Tigerstar. i wonder if the Tribe of Rushing water and Skyclan will be involed in the battle at all. probably just the Tribe... Or maybe Tigerstar and the Dark Forest cats will come to the territories (before anyone says they can't do that, they CAN) and start a war and Firestar will be like "WTF (standing for "What the firetruck?, before anyone reports me)?" and HOPEFULLY will join StarClan. That would make me happy. LOL it would be about time...
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Post by Dawnsky on Oct 22, 2011 20:54:23 GMT -5
and hallow, prepare to die! read my signature to find out why u will meet this drastic end. EDIT: deathwish too wiil meet this end.
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Post by Hallow on Oct 22, 2011 20:56:49 GMT -5
*places down Tigerstar zombies* Try me.
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