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Post by Foxy on Aug 23, 2013 6:47:52 GMT -5
So this idea came to me when I was recording my Video Walkthrough, Specifically the moment I tryed to kill Firestar because I didn't beat Hawkfrost first time. If you haven't guessed, my idea is to actually be able to kill Firestar! It wouldn't happen when you get the choice more like a extra part of the game after you beat all subquest/etc. How to do it could like be somewhere inside the cave behind Firestar's den. If you press C on whatever it is, Some text would Appear saying something like, "You made the right choice, but do you want to know what would have happened if you didn't?" and you get to pick yes or no. If you pick 'No' Some text appears and says "You are a loyal deputy." or something like that and you could receive 1 Divine Claws. But if you pick "Yes" it will say "Very well, if this is what you wish." And it will take you back to the moments before the battle with Hawkfrost and instead of there being two choices(Kill or Help) there is only one(Kill).
This will make your entire party leave you(To be replace by Hawkfrost, level 60, and possibly Tigerstar, level 85) and begins a battle with a very weak Firestar, But you have to kill him six times, and before the battle starts every time Firestar will say, "Please rethink this Brambleclaw!(or whatever you named yourself)" Instead of the "I have more than one life" from the ultimate challenge. When you beat him Squirrelflight and Leafpool show up, and you have to fight them. After that you would make your way back to ThunderClan camp and take over as leader after you 'find' Firestar, Leafpool, and Squirrelflight(Or whatever you named them) dead. Now that you are leader you choose the deputy(Ashfur is my guess) and you will raid WindClan camp and fight 4 groups of WindClan Warriors, then Onestar.
Still unfinished, ill probably update my ideas every once and awhile
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Post by Willowleaf on Aug 23, 2013 17:37:23 GMT -5
Woah, that sounds very interesting.
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Post by Mistyfoot!!! on Aug 23, 2013 19:45:34 GMT -5
COOL!!!!!
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Post by Foxy on Aug 23, 2013 19:47:25 GMT -5
Woah, that sounds very interesting. I wouldn't have posted it if it wasn't
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Post by Dawnsky on Aug 24, 2013 7:05:16 GMT -5
I like it! But what would happpen after you completed the subquest? Would you warp back to your own reality or stay in the new one?
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Post by Ripplestream on Aug 24, 2013 7:23:40 GMT -5
Maybe at the end as a reward you get 2 divine claws or something. Then it comes back to reality. Or maybe a scene where you are exiled after killing Firestar and Ashfur becomes Ashstar and becomes mates with Squirrelflight... I'm just brainstorming here. Or the whole clan system would collapse and Hawkfrost and Brambleclaw would rule the lake or something, but Hawkfrost would eventually kill Brambleclaw for complete control. Something like that.
Edit: I just realized that my first would be impossible if part of your is still true. But it would be painful to see that. How about this:
As you remove Firestar's last life, shock shows in his eyes as he slumps to the ground. Squirrelflight happens to come right when you kill him. Disbelief turns into hate as she narrows her eyes on you and runs back to camp, telling in detail how you killed Firestar. You are immediately exiled, but you see how Ashfur immediately comforts her and shows how much he loves her and they become mates. Ashfur is made Ashstar with... someone... as deputy. Two words are left in your mind as you walk away, exiled:
Tigerstar lied...
You are taken back to the present and realize that it never happened. Firestar is still alive and you are still a loyal deputy and will always be one, especially now you know what would have happened...
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Post by Foxy on Aug 24, 2013 14:50:00 GMT -5
I like your idea on it Ripplestream(I also it sounds abit like a fanfiction I read a long time ago), Im going to add onto it abit:
Ripplestream's: As you remove Firestar's last life, shock shows in his eyes as he slumps to the ground. Squirrelflight happens to come right when you kill him. Disbelief turns into hate as she narrows her eyes on you and runs back to camp, telling in detail how you killed Firestar. You are immediately exiled, but you see how Ashfur immediately comforts her and shows how much he loves her and they become mates. Ashfur is made Ashstar with... someone... as deputy. Two words are left in your mind as you walk away, exiled:
Tigerstar lied...
My ideas to continue it: You feel hatred for Tigerstar, but also Ashfur. After you learn he had been involved in the trap for Firestar that set you up, You begin to gather cats that will be on some previous maps such as Sun-drown place. Maybe you could even convince SkyClan that Ashfur/star had killed Firestar and had drove you out. Since SkyClan is greatful to Firestar, they would likely be furious that someone had killed Firestar and would want to help you(Since they don't know you killed Firestar) drive out Ashfur/star. After you had gathered around 10 cats that are spread around all maps(You would have to battle some to get them to join you), You could attack ThunderClan to defeat Ashfur/star(His battle could consist of Him, Leafpool, Squirrelflight, and whoever his deputy is, all a little weaker than Wrath Scourge, since this would kinda be a super secret final subquest). But Before you can kill him StarClan cats show up, Your cats run away, and you have to fight a undefeatable Firestar(Like 10x Stronger than Wrath Scourge). After you lose, it shows a brief scene of your death and then you wake up in your own reality and get some kind of reward. Maybe Some special claws that are stronger than divine claws that can only be equipped to Brambleclaw, Maybe they could be called the Dark Forest Claws?
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Post by Silverfur on Aug 25, 2013 15:35:33 GMT -5
Great idea! Wow!
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Post by Dawnsky on Aug 26, 2013 7:55:02 GMT -5
Awesome! I'd love to play through that!
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Post by Foxy on Aug 26, 2013 12:05:42 GMT -5
Im actually surprised this hasn't been suggested before.
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Post by Dawnsky on Aug 26, 2013 13:03:53 GMT -5
It probably has, but not in as much detail.
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Post by Foxy on Aug 26, 2013 18:13:57 GMT -5
Maybe
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Post by Ripplestream on Aug 29, 2013 18:01:04 GMT -5
I like your idea on it Ripplestream(I also it sounds abit like a fanfiction I read a long time ago), Im going to add onto it abit: Ripplestream's: As you remove Firestar's last life, shock shows in his eyes as he slumps to the ground. Squirrelflight happens to come right when you kill him. Disbelief turns into hate as she narrows her eyes on you and runs back to camp, telling in detail how you killed Firestar. You are immediately exiled, but you see how Ashfur immediately comforts her and shows how much he loves her and they become mates. Ashfur is made Ashstar with... someone... as deputy. Two words are left in your mind as you walk away, exiled: Tigerstar lied...
My ideas to continue it: You feel hatred for Tigerstar, but also Ashfur. After you learn he had been involved in the trap for Firestar that set you up, You begin to gather cats that will be on some previous maps such as Sun-drown place. Maybe you could even convince SkyClan that Ashfur/star had killed Firestar and had drove you out. Since SkyClan is greatful to Firestar, they would likely be furious that someone had killed Firestar and would want to help you(Since they don't know you killed Firestar) drive out Ashfur/star. After you had gathered around 10 cats that are spread around all maps(You would have to battle some to get them to join you), You could attack ThunderClan to defeat Ashfur/star(His battle could consist of Him, Leafpool, Squirrelflight, and whoever his deputy is, all a little weaker than Wrath Scourge, since this would kinda be a super secret final subquest). But Before you can kill him StarClan cats show up, Your cats run away, and you have to fight a undefeatable Firestar(Like 10x Stronger than Wrath Scourge). After you lose, it shows a brief scene of your death and then you wake up in your own reality and get some kind of reward. Maybe Some special claws that are stronger than divine claws that can only be equipped to Brambleclaw, Maybe they could be called the Dark Forest Claws? I like the fact that you try to attack Ashfur afterward, although I'm not so sure about the SkyClan part... as for the someone as deputy... Cloudtail, maybe? Or Graystripe? I would like it to return to the present at some point...
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Post by Willowleaf on Aug 29, 2013 21:38:59 GMT -5
I was thinking he might of made Squirrelflight as deputy, or maybe Birchfall, because he was his apprentice.
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Post by Foxy on Aug 30, 2013 6:36:06 GMT -5
(I feel like We're trying to write a fanfiction more than make a idea ) Squirrelflight would probally be better for deputy
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Post by Ripplestream on Sept 2, 2013 6:30:24 GMT -5
Ohh, OK! In my opinion, its a bit lengthy already without the skyclan part, and doesn't quite makes sense (what happens when they find out you killed him? they aren't exactly going to put their whole clan on hold just to help you avenge Firestar, besides, half of them are Daylight-Warriors)
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Post by Admin on Sept 2, 2013 13:23:57 GMT -5
Sorry for looking at this so late. Intriguing concept I must say. The reason I rarely update the games is because after every update, the file is "suspicious" once again and a lot of virus scanners instantly delete it the moment it gets downloaded. This is a big turn off to new players, so I usually don't do updates unless they are very massive, or there is a problem with the game. Still, I might do this or something like it at some point, perhaps after doing all the po3 post-story content.
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Post by Ripplestream on Sept 3, 2013 6:54:46 GMT -5
Po3 is looking really good Admin!
Now, back to the topic on hand...
As for the end... How about this...
As you remove Firestar's last life, shock shows in his eyes as he slumps to the ground. Squirrelflight happens to come right when you kill him. Disbelief turns into hate as she narrows her eyes on you and runs back to camp, telling in detail how you killed Firestar. You are immediately exiled, but you see how Ashfur immediately comforts her and shows how much he loves her and they become mates. Ashfur is made Ashstar with... someone... as deputy. Two words are left in your mind as you walk away, exiled:
Tigerstar lied...
And this to end it:
You lash out at Ashfur/star for taking everything from you. However, Ashfur overpowers you. As he's about to making the final strike, you are taken back to the present.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 3, 2013 19:03:23 GMT -5
That seems good, How ever i would like it to involve more traveling and stuff. But SkyClan would be out of the picture because they would have to travel to far(And through that evil maze.) but there probally will never be another mega-subquest in the NP game as Admin is almost finished with Po3. So the most that could happen would likely be what you just said.
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Post by Ripplestream on Sept 7, 2013 17:55:20 GMT -5
Yeah.
Still would be fun, though.
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